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#21
Ahhh, our chickens were domestic for sure - Rose used to love coming into the house and usually went to the bag containing odd socks which she ransacked!

We never ate our chickens - we loved their eggs. Mostly they were rescue birds from factory farms where they had come to the end of their "useful" life. Very sad that they never knew the outside world and earth under their feet until we took them. They are great fun as pets, full of personality!

I am not sure what the difference between a breed and a species is but good luck on your venture photographing them - what a great hobby to have!
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#22
(2018-12-12, 04:16 AM)cta102 Wrote: What about Kentucky Fried Chicken hahaha

No domestic chicken doesn't count. It was domesticated from red Jungle Fowl (Gallus gallus)

Bob, those would maybe be subspecies..just like all different breeds domestic dogs are single species

KFC should have its own species denomination... well, I don't know if it's for the better or worse. Wink
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#23
I like chicken too!
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#24
I do not really understand the species thing at all. I can get that all chickens are part of the "chicken group", even though they may look very different from each other. But at what point do they become a different species from say the eagles?
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#25
Well it used to be the definition of a 'species' was that it could not breed with another species and produce fertile offspring.

So a horse and donkey are separate species, but they can breed together and produce a mule. But the mule is sterile.

But we know that some birds do breed with very similar species..usually same genus and have fertile offspring. We call them hybrids. I have photographed hybrid gulls, woodpeckers, hummingbirds. So the old definition is kind of passee.

Birds usually attracted by their calls, so if 2 similar looking birds have different songs and the female of one is not attracted to the male of the others song, then likely different species even if they look the same. Then they do a DNA analysis.

Many birds species are being 'split' into 2 or more new species based on this data being done now. Previously if they looked the same and sounded sort of the same, they were considered to be a single species.

Now most of it is DNA differences of at least a certain percentage.

I guess only God knows how he set this up and I think he put these puzzles out there for us mere mortals to figure out.
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#26
Now I am more confused! I thought that lions and tigers, surely different species, can interbreed and their offspring can too. I read once of a liliger which I think was a liger (an animal with a tiger and a lion as parents) had a cub with a lion, hence the li-li-ger name. I hope I have not just made that "fact" up!

So basically you are setting out to photograph 1/2 of all bird species but by the time you get to 5000, the grand total may actually be a lot more than 10k as new species are found!
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#27
Yes if forced together then maybe..lions and tigers normally do not meet in wild as on different continents.

I do not know if this happened or was some joke?

Right now..the bird total is about 10,300 species..a few new species 'found' but most new species now due to 'splits' as outlined above
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