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InitiativeQ; one more new paypal
#11
That's well spoken Hugues. I agree with you 100%. It's not a goal in itself to remain anonymous. It's only something that is relevant in special occasions. When I discuss on Facebook I don't talk to anonymous profiles that could be trolls. Yes I tell them to go away but apart from that I don't take their words into account.

Please also remember that most technological projects don't need a blockchain and don't need you to anonymous. Like Hugues I can give many examples.

My email is exposed in more places anyway and since I use gmail Google "knows" my mails and is good at setting up spam filters. I don't see this as a problem at all.
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#12
(2018-10-28, 12:40 PM)Carsten Wrote: That's well spoken Hugues. I agree with you 100%. It's not a goal in itself to remain anonymous. It's only something that is relevant in special occasions. When I discuss on Facebook I don't talk to anonymous profiles that could be trolls. Yes I tell them to go away but apart from that I don't take their words into account.

Please also remember that most technological projects don't need a blockchain and don't need you to anonymous. Like Hugues I can give many examples.

My email is exposed in more places anyway and since I use gmail Google "knows" my mails and is good at setting up spam filters. I don't see this as a problem at all.
Thanks for your support.
I do not believe that a person like Saar Wilf (one of the founders of this initiative q) who sold his company (Fraud Sciences) to ebay and paypal for almost $170 million, can afford to lose his reputation on this new project.
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#13
I'm taking it back, maybe i overreacted a little bit :/ . Yes we in here help with checking things out, we stay strong and talk about things and and i really like having you in here Smile. My alarm bells just rang the second i started looking a little bit into it. But i hope it turns out good. For me i'm gonna stay out of this for now until we know more Smile
If you wanna donate in any cryptocurrency just send me a message and i will set it up(If i haven't) Smile All donations are appreciated  
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#14
To underline my meaning of being here in this forum, that I intend to help people:

With this initiative q you can only invite 5 people max.
So if you post your invites on social media it could be you run out of invites.
It could be possible someone contacts you to be invited. If you run out of invites we can help each other by giving each others referral links
to invites from others.
What about that?

PS: Does this look like a piramid scheme? Yes it does, but it is solidarity.
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#15
(2018-10-28, 01:10 PM)Hugues Wrote: To underline my meaning of being here in this forum, that I intend to help people:

With this initiative q you can only invite 5 people max.
So if you post your invites on social media it could be you run out of invites.
It could be possible someone contacts you to be invited. If you run out of invites we can help each other by giving each others referral links
to invites from others.
What about that?

PS: Does this look like a piramid scheme? Yes it does, but it is solidarity.

As I wrote. I have some invites that can be used for members in here.
Cardano is the most promising 3 gen. crypto right now.


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#16
(2018-10-28, 01:49 PM)Carsten Wrote:
(2018-10-28, 01:10 PM)Hugues Wrote: To underline my meaning of being here in this forum, that I intend to help people:

With this initiative q you can only invite 5 people max.
So if you post your invites on social media it could be you run out of invites.
It could be possible someone contacts you to be invited. If you run out of invites we can help each other by giving each others referral links
to invites from others.
What about that?

PS: Does this look like a piramid scheme? Yes it does, but it is solidarity.

As I wrote. I have some invites that can be used for members in here.
I still need 3.
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#17
I am almost out of invites. 1 spot left. So if someone wants to jump in:
https://initiativeq.com/invite/BW77Ztb27

When some new invites contact me I will pass them to others in here or on social media. Just to help others.
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#18
I also have some left https://initiativeq.com/invite/BeqWZcb2Q
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#19
Following... Smile
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#20
I found this article in "The conversation".
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source: https://theconversation.com/initiative-q...lue-106148

Initiative Q is not the new Bitcoin, but here’s why the idea has value

Could free units of a new digital currency end up being worth thousands of dollars?
Initiative Q, which is aggressively marketing itself on social media, wants you to think so. It urges you to sign up now, and get your friends to do so as well, to maximise the value of your free “Q” currency. This has invited comparisons to pyramid schemes and suspicions about its legitimacy.
It’s not a scam. It also won’t make you fabulously wealthy. It is, nonetheless, an interesting idea.
I want to use institutional cryptoeconomics – the study of the basic rules governing emerging economic systems such as cryptocurrencies – to show you how Initiative Q is an interesting experiment, criticisms of its marketing methods aside. If you sign up, you might help the world discover a remarkable new payments system.
Cryptocurrency basics
Initiative Q’s marketing explicitly draws comparisons with the best-known cryptocurrency: “Think of it as Bitcoin seven years ago.” The implication is this is the next Big Thing in internet money.

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Yet Initiative Q also states it is not developing a cryptocurrency.

The basic definition of a cryptocurrency is simply any form of digital money consisting of entries in a cryptographically secure virtual ledger, rather than physical coins and notes. In this sense “Q” can be thought of as a cryptocurrency.

However, cryptocurrency is increasingly defined further as using a decentralised system to manage and secure the virtual ledger that records transactions.

Bitcoin, for instance, uses blockchain technology to “distribute” the virtual ledger across a network and “decentralise” the process of coming to agreement on how to update it.

Blockchain protects a cryptocurrency from manipulation by hackers or governments, but it comes with costs.



Read more: Bitcoin turns ten – here's how it all started and what the future might hold



What makes Q different

Initiative Q is not like Bitcoin in most technical respects.

It will not use blockchain but control the “true” ledger centrally. This makes blockchain enthusiasts uncomfortable, because it cuts against the cryptoanarchist aversion to any one group holding power over a system. But it will avoid some costs of Bitcoin and similar cryptocurrencies.

One is the feared environmental cost of energy-intensive “proof of work” algorithms that prove to the whole network a blockchain is compiled correctly.

“Q” will avoid that by the company deciding what is the “true” ledger. That also allows the company to counter fraud and resolve disputes by “reversing” transactions, where blockchains can typically only do this with an intensely difficult “hard fork”.

By design the Q won’t fluctuate wildly in value, either. The goal is a stable private currency for payments processing rather than a vehicle for speculation. It is clearly designed with the current “stablecoin” trend in mind.



Read more: Four factors driving the price of Bitcoin



Lawrence White, who helped design “Q”, is known for advocating systems where money does not fluctuate wildly in value. He has clearly built Initiative Q around monetarist theory, which says the money supply should be controlled to keep prices stable.

So the value of “Q” will not fluctuate wildly like many cryptocurrencies.

All of this makes Initiative Q unlike Bitcoin, although it creates a private digital currency.

Experiments in institutional technologies

My colleagues at RMIT Blockchain Innovation Hub call cryptocurrencies “institutional technologies”. Anyone who wants to use the system has to act within the institutions it creates - that is, obey its fundamental rules.

These systems can be privatised. Any private citizen with a laptop can write a protocol that administers large-scale institutional systems like money, which historically only the centralised state could enforce.



Read more: Rise of cryptocurrencies like bitcoin begs question: what is money?



For example, Bitcoin’s creator, Satoshi Nakamoto, is said to have belted out the source code for the cryptocurrency on a laptop at home during spare time. Now millions of people around the world use the system to interact every day.

What’s exciting is that this allows people to invent all sorts of different institutional systems to see which ones work best – feeding a process my colleagues have called “institutional discovery”.

From this perspective, what is interesting about Initiative Q is that it creates a novel blend of institutions oriented around streamlined payments processing. It is supposed to take all the good things about PayPal and improve on them.

Not the new Bitcoin, but still interesting

One can understand why Initiative Q’s marketing strategy has caused it to be dismissed as a “pyramid scheme”. But like any payments system, it faces “network externalities”. It needs lots of people to use it. The more people do, the more value it has.

If it does succeed, though, it won’t make you fabulously wealthy. You’ll get something more like a gift card. The value of “Q” is designed to be stable, so you shouldn’t be expecting to become a crypto-billionaire.
If you do sign up, you might at least enrich the field of institutional cryptoeconomics. Experiments like this are how we improve our institutions, through a process much like scientific discovery.
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