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2001 A Space Odyssey
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This film is a classic, a must see for all sci-fi fans.  I bought a box set of Kubrick films and although I had seen 2001 before, we watched it last night.  My memory is strange because although I was sure I had seen it years ago, I actually only remembered one scene, where HAL has his upper memory functions switched off.

I have to say it is possibly the worst film I have ever watched!

I cannot believe it is a classic, one of the great films of all time.  

Every scene was slow and ponderous.  There was no talking for the first 20 minutes.  There were minutes at a time of just heavy breathing.  It did have Leonard Rossiter in it, a great, now dead, UK comic actor.

It was hard to follow the plot and I am not totally sure there was one, other than those giant slabs that connected the chimps, the moon and Jupiter. There was the psychedelic stuff at the end which was pure 60s drug fuelled stuff.  There was the bizarre chimps at the start, who looked and acted just like my kids do when pretending to be chimps, that was nearly funny it was so bad.

I would say that this film was even slower than Star Trek  The Motion Picture - my previous worst ever sci-fi (and I am a huge Star Trek fan!).

If it were possible, I would sue Kubrick for those lost 2 and a bit hours of my life.
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Haha Bob. Please remember the movie is from 1967 or so. At the time the weightless scenes were far ahead of the time. It was a first mover in many special effects. Yes, the first 20 min or so is interesting. We see how we develop the skills to handle tools. The scene where the monkey throw up the bone and the scene cuts to a spinning spaceship is classical.

Regarding the plot. I have to disagree with you Bob. It goes from no intelligence to human intelligence, to artificial intelligence, to alien intelligence.

It brings up questions like what if AI takes over. What if we met an Alien intelligence. And much more I can't remember from the top of my head.

I remember the movie as awesome, but it's also at least 20 years since I saw it the second time. First time I was 15 or so.
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(2018-05-02, 01:35 PM)Carsten Wrote: Haha Bob. Please remember the movie is from 1967 or so. At the time the weightless scenes were far ahead of the time. It was a first mover in many special effects. Yes, the first 20 min or so is interesting. We see how we develop the skills to handle tools. The scene where the monkey throw up the bone and the scene cuts to a spinning spaceship is classical.

Regarding the plot. I have to disagree with you Bob. It goes from no intelligence to human intelligence, to artificial intelligence, to alien intelligence.

It brings up questions like what if AI takes over. What if we met an Alien intelligence.  And much more I can't remember from the top of my head.

I remember the movie as awesome, but it's also at least 20 years since I saw it the second time. First time I was 15 or so.

Good question"what if.."
If we meet alien inteligence here on this planet it would mean they are far far more developped than we. Otherwise they wouldn't arrive at our planet.

For AI... That's another question. Let's wait a few more years.
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Did you like the movie Hugues?

Yes alien intelligence would most likely be above anything we can understand if they are able to get here.

AI is progressing fast these days. I'm both fascinated and scared. If we are not truly careful it's the most likely cause of our extinction.
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I am a huge SCIFI buff... But, I never succeed to watch the movie in one shot... I watch it in part and finally got to see it all. What is remarkable is the way Kubrick managed to portray the future of the space travel... in the late 60, that was really incredible. The story is pretty boring though. Wink
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(2018-05-02, 05:28 PM)Cell Wrote: I am a huge SCIFI buff... But, I never succeed to watch the movie in one shot... I watch it in part and finally got to see it all. What is remarkable is the way Kubrick managed to portray the future of the space travel... in the late 60, that was really incredible. The story is pretty boring though. Wink

haha...read the book then!
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(2018-05-02, 05:21 PM)Carsten Wrote: Did you like the movie Hugues?

Yes alien intelligence would most likely be above anything we can understand if they are able to get here.

AI is progressing fast these days. I'm both fascinated and scared. If we are not truly careful it's the most likely cause of our extinction.

Nope, I didn't like the movie.
Not enough scientific reality in it. I liked "Interstellar".
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Okay Hugues. I hope you do know that Arthur C. Clarke was a visionary man who in his writing predicted "many" of the things we see in space today.

I think for a movie made in the sixties it had many science things we take for granted today. That fact that we still talk about it says it all to me. That movie has set many thoughts in motion.

Interstellar is a pretty new movie that was quite awesome. Especially the visualization of black holes that were done in collaboration with some of the best physicist. In the end of the movie there is also a strange thing going on with time bending around itself (or something like that) that is highly speculative.
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Well I am glad others think it is boring too!
But I take your pits Carsten, if I were to dissect the movie lie a student then there is probably quite a lot to talk about it in.
I had not considered the development of intelligence like you lay it out but that is a valid point. Maybe if it had been made in 45 minutes rather than 2 days (ok it was not that long...) then I may have picked up on it.
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