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Anonymous Message To Greta Thunberg - yes it's the hackers
#1
Interesting input to the young naive Greta Thurnberg that has gotten way to much attention.

"Greetings. This is a message to Greta Thunberg, from Anonymous.
We understand and sympathize with your concerns about the environment, and agree that the blame lies with many of the world’s most powerful corporations. However, you may want to be careful that you are not led astray by people who are a part of the problem, and it appears that this may be happening. Many of the powerful politicians that you met with and took photographs with, are deeply involved with many of the industries you speak out against.
Many of the policies that you are advocating for are also misguided, despite their seemingly good intentions. For example, heavy carbon taxes will not have much of an effect on the fossil fuel industry, aside from making their cost of doing business a little bit higher. The large corporations that are destroying the planet have teams of lawyers on standby for any accusations that are brought against them, and they have money budgeted specifically for dealing with all of the fines that they intend to violate."
.... read the rest here.

https://www.anonews.co/anonymous-message-to-greta-thunberg
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#2
I normally do not mind anonymous but this troubles me. The tone comes across as a bit threatening and I am fairly sure they do not intend to threaten Greta!

"Many of the policies that you are advocating for are also misguided" is a quote from the article but they do not propose anything else. I would like to see them (and not just them, this needs to be a global conversation) with ideas. I am sure some of the ideas will be daft, some will be rubbish some will be unworkable but in amongst all the ideas solutions could appear. If we do not at least start talking then nothing will change.

I would hope that anonymous would work to keep as many of the players in the debate as honest as possible too.
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(2019-10-03, 04:31 PM)BobBobert Wrote: I normally do not mind anonymous but this troubles me.  The tone comes across as a bit threatening and I am fairly sure they do not intend to threaten Greta!  

"Many of the policies that you are advocating for are also misguided" is a quote from the article but they do not propose anything else.  I would like to see them (and not just them, this needs to be a global conversation) with ideas.  I am sure some of the ideas will be daft, some will be rubbish some will be unworkable but in amongst all the ideas solutions could appear.  If we do not at least start talking then nothing will change.

I would hope that anonymous would work to keep as many of the players in the debate as honest as possible too.

It's true that the post does not propose a solution, but it's quite clear what they think.

"The large corporations that are destroying the planet have teams of lawyers on standby for any accusations that are brought against them, and they have money budgeted specifically for dealing with all of the fines that they intend to violate."

"Protecting the environment is important, but it is also important not to let people who are a part of the problem be in control of the solutions, because we run the risk of allowing them to make everything worse."

They certainly hate the current system.
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#4
In the UK, most MPs agree that no deal is not good. But they cannot agree on what to do - some think stay, others think go but with a better deal, some think go but with current deal. Even though a majority say that no deal is bad, it could well come to happen that no deal is the actual event.

I think a lot of people are united in hating the current system but until we can come up with something better than most of us agree on then there will be no change. Unless, of course, we are forced down one road because of systematic worldwide failure.
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#5
I agree that the current system is not ideal, but a no deal brexit will be expensive and cumbersome for us all. Suddenly you will have to pay import tax from goods bought in UK and vice versa. Flights from UK to Europe will have to go through the extra security and passport check as if you arrived from Africa. I will be hell for all businesses in Europe. There are so many other downsides on UK leaving EU that the best solution is to stay and work for a better EU model.
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(2019-10-07, 12:41 PM)Carsten Wrote: I agree that the current system is not ideal, but a no deal brexit will be expensive and cumbersome for us all. Suddenly you will have to pay import tax from goods bought in UK and vice versa. Flights from UK to Europe will have to go through the extra security and passport check as if you arrived from Africa. I will be hell for all businesses in Europe. There are so many other downsides on UK leaving EU that the best solution is to stay and work for a better EU model.

Whilst that may be true, I think it is maybe too late now.  The UK has had a vocal minority for a long time that see the EU in a bad way, even from the times of Margaret Thatcher.  A lot of the news about the EU is not good - budgets and spending that is not audited, we lose fishing jobs, French farmers get money for nothing. There has been so much negative stuff about the EU (some of which may not be true even) that it may be beyond repair.

I am a big fan of the single currency though, the ease of travel too.  

Maybe the pain of a no deal will force politicians to come up with a deal in a few months.
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#7
Remember that the press is often colored. It's not always true what you read in British papers or see on TV. Same of course applies to us all.

No matter what until a better system is in place it would be better and cheaper for UK to stay in EU.

Brexit will hurt UK so damn much and the rest of EU as I already said.
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