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Holochain - Like Blockchain, but faster and more scalable
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Holo everyone. I have been following on and off a project called "Holochain" which aims to be much faster and scalable than blockchain technology.

I first came across Arthur Brock and the Holochain concept while reading this article:
https://medium.com/metacurrency-project/...223154d783

He then mentioned he was working on a technology called Holochain in the comments. I have read his writings for a few months now.

They are currently having an ICO whitelist registration for Holo fuel.

Here are a few links from their site to more information:
https://holo.host/
https://holo.host/greenpaper
https://holochain.org/
https://holochain.org/whitepaper
https://holo.host/faq

From the FAQ:

Q: What is Holochain?
A: Holochain is an alternative to blockchain which is faster and more scalable designed for running distributed applications
Q: Why use Holochain instead of blockchain?
A:
  1. It’s faster: Since Holochain apps don’t have to sync everyone on the network for every little change that happens, they can run much faster than apps that use blockchains.
  2. It’s more efficient: Not needing to have everyone make a copy of every change makes Holochain exponentially more efficient and affordable. This means Holochain can be used for things that blockchain cannot address, such as accounting for microtransactions.2
  3. It’s scalable: Holochain can support applications with billions of simultaneous users thanks to its parallel architecture.
  4. It’s adaptable: Users can adapt apps and protocols to meet their needs.
  5. It’s extendable: Users can extend applications by linking them to other applications.  Anything a user can read out of one app, they can write into another.
Q: When will Holo go on the Blockchain?
A: Never. Holo is built on Holochain, an alternative approach to blockchain which is faster and more scalable.

Except for maybe Hashgraph, which is a closed source project, Holochain is the most promising project that I have come across so far, but is still in Alpha, so we have to wait and see if they can deliver what they have promised and then even if they do, there is no guarantee that Holo Fuel will go up greatly in price like Ether or NEO Gas. This is because Holo Fuel is generated on a system of mutual credit, which as far as I l know hasn't been done with cryptos before, so I don't know how much this asset can go up.

I am going to be joining the ICO, one of the reasons being because I would like to develop on this platform. They have already said Holo is going to be a stable value at all times without too many fluctuations. Also they can exchange Holo Fuel for Blockchain Cryptos at anytime.

I am not sure of the returns, because this is not an inherently deflationary currency like Bitcoin or Ethereum. It could be the technology that the next Facebook is written on, or it could be something that is ignored. There is not much hype surrounding this project, so it is hard to tell if it will come to anything.

It would be great if the people from this forum could let me know their opinions about Holo and investing in its ICO. I am currently weighing up how much to put into the ICO, so that would be a great help.
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(2018-01-15, 06:25 AM)Jacob Wrote: Holo everyone. I have been following on and off a project called "Holochain" which aims to be much faster and scalable than blockchain technology.

I first came across Arthur Brock and the Holochain concept while reading this article:
https://medium.com/metacurrency-project/...223154d783

He then mentioned he was working on a technology called Holochain in the comments. I have read his writings for a few months now.

They are currently having an ICO whitelist registration for Holo fuel.

Here are a few links from their site to more information:
https://holo.host/
https://holo.host/greenpaper
https://holochain.org/
https://holochain.org/whitepaper
https://holo.host/faq

From the FAQ:

Q: What is Holochain?
A: Holochain is an alternative to blockchain which is faster and more scalable designed for running distributed applications
Q: Why use Holochain instead of blockchain?
A:
  1. It’s faster: Since Holochain apps don’t have to sync everyone on the network for every little change that happens, they can run much faster than apps that use blockchains.
  2. It’s more efficient: Not needing to have everyone make a copy of every change makes Holochain exponentially more efficient and affordable. This means Holochain can be used for things that blockchain cannot address, such as accounting for microtransactions.2
  3. It’s scalable: Holochain can support applications with billions of simultaneous users thanks to its parallel architecture.
  4. It’s adaptable: Users can adapt apps and protocols to meet their needs.
  5. It’s extendable: Users can extend applications by linking them to other applications.  Anything a user can read out of one app, they can write into another.
Q: When will Holo go on the Blockchain?
A: Never. Holo is built on Holochain, an alternative approach to blockchain which is faster and more scalable.

Except for maybe Hashgraph, which is a closed source project, Holochain is the most promising project that I have come across so far, but is still in Alpha, so we have to wait and see if they can deliver what they have promised and then even if they do, there is no guarantee that Holo Fuel will go up greatly in price like Ether or NEO Gas. This is because Holo Fuel is generated on a system of mutual credit, which as far as I l know hasn't been done with cryptos before, so I don't know how much this asset can go up.

I am going to be joining the ICO, one of the reasons being because I would like to develop on this platform. They have already said Holo is going to be a stable value at all times without too many fluctuations. Also they can exchange Holo Fuel for Blockchain Cryptos at anytime.

I am not sure of the returns, because this is not an inherently deflationary currency like Bitcoin or Ethereum. It could be the technology that the next Facebook is written on, or it could be something that is ignored. There is not much hype surrounding this project, so it is hard to tell if it will come to anything.

It would be great if the people from this forum could let me know their opinions about Holo and investing in its ICO. I am currently weighing up how much to put into the ICO, so that would be a great help.
Jacob, I will have a look at it.
What is this thing that builds our dreams, yet slips away from us?

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(2018-01-15, 08:48 AM)Hugues Wrote: Jacob, I will have a look at it.

Thank you Hugues, I was hoping you would. I am going to definitely buy some tokens, but depending on your analysis, I will buy more.
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For now my initial comments is that I don't agree with the premise that cryptocurrencies need to be governed. I also disagree with the premise that people needs to be involved (of course people are involved on the outside). The whole idea with crypto is the possibility to stay fairly anonymous. I agree with 1 and 2 generation blockchain coin has a problem with blockchain size. That's where Cardano comes into play. You don't need an entire copy of the blockchain. Cardano also solved the problem of speed on the blockchain.

I need to read more later.

Thanks for sharing.
Cardano is the most promising 3 gen. crypto right now.


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#5
Thanks for sharing... I won't be of a great help though, but I'm really interested in investing in new ICO. I want to have 30% of my portfolio in ICO for high risk high potential gain, so I maybe interested to put some coins in the project.
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(2018-01-15, 05:08 PM)Cell Wrote: Thanks for sharing... I won't be of a great help though, but I'm really interested in investing in new ICO. I want to have 30% of my portfolio in ICO for high risk high potential gain, so I maybe interested to put some coins in the project.

Cell, I see this one as medium risk, because it is still in alpha. I'm thinking low returns over the next two years at least, because it is heavily dependent on someone building the next Facebook or Airbnb on top of it and that takes time. 

From a developer perspective it has immense potential, but I am not sure how it will give short term returns, especially since it uses mutual credit. 

Based on their YouTube channel having less than 400 subscribers, it looks like marketing is not their forte. Their dev team looks great, but unfortunately that is not always what causes a coin's value to appreciate. 

I will be posting about more ICOs, and many of them will have better investment potential from the very start. While I am going to invest in this one, I don't recommend others to expect big gains from this within the next year. 

If you decide to invest in this make sure you read the green paper at the very least to get an idea of what the project is about.
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#7
Thanks Jacob, appreciated. I am also really interested in new ICO. I don't know if my stock strategy will do well in the crypto world... but having 30% of high risk high potential stocks made me happy often in the past. We'll see... Smile
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(2018-01-15, 10:11 AM)Carsten Wrote: For now my initial comments is that I don't agree with the premise that cryptocurrencies need to be governed. I also disagree with the premise that people needs to be involved (of course people are involved on the outside). The whole idea with crypto is the possibility to stay fairly anonymous. I agree with 1 and 2 generation blockchain coin has a problem with blockchain size. That's where Cardano comes into play. You don't need an entire copy of the blockchain. Cardano also solved the problem of speed on the blockchain.

I need to read more later.

Thanks for sharing.

I agree at some point with these arguments of Carsten.
Another reason why not to jump in this holochain to fast can be found in a post I just wrote a few minutes ago: http://rimbit.dk/showthread.php?tid=720

I did not have the chance to have a closer look at this holochain. I will and give you my opinion.
What is this thing that builds our dreams, yet slips away from us?

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#9
I am not completely done with this because it is a very complex matter.
They claim never to be on the blockchain, but the HOLO token is an ERC20 token! ERC20 tokens run over the Ethereum BLOCKCHAIN. Did I miss something here. Blockchain vs Holochain...
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(2018-01-16, 01:00 AM)Hugues Wrote: I am not completely done with this because it is a very complex matter.
They claim never to be on the blockchain, but the HOLO token is an ERC20 token! ERC20 tokens run over the Ethereum BLOCKCHAIN. Did I miss something here. Blockchain vs Holochain...

If it's just a token then it's on the blockchain. 

(don't have time to study today)
Cardano is the most promising 3 gen. crypto right now.


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